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	<title>Comments on: Diversity Groups</title>
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		<title>By: Maura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ethel,

While I understand the idea this take on women&#039;s issues, I question again whether this is an issue that is a &quot;test&quot; or &quot;IT&quot; issue. Yes, it&#039;s a male vs female issue in the workplace in general - but what does it do for testing in particular? It may be a bit of a scoping question again where it&#039;s an issue that is really a broader one than in software testing itself.

Breastfeeding or pregnancy doesn&#039;t make me a better tester or, I don&#039;t believe, a different tester than I am non-pregnant or non-nursing. 

Thanks for stopping by. It&#039;s an interesting thing for me to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ethel,</p>
<p>While I understand the idea this take on women&#8217;s issues, I question again whether this is an issue that is a &#8220;test&#8221; or &#8220;IT&#8221; issue. Yes, it&#8217;s a male vs female issue in the workplace in general &#8211; but what does it do for testing in particular? It may be a bit of a scoping question again where it&#8217;s an issue that is really a broader one than in software testing itself.</p>
<p>Breastfeeding or pregnancy doesn&#8217;t make me a better tester or, I don&#8217;t believe, a different tester than I am non-pregnant or non-nursing. </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by. It&#8217;s an interesting thing for me to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethel</title>
		<link>http://www.mauravanderlinden.com/blog/2010/06/05/diversity-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stumbled across your blog while looking for SDET reading.  Mostly I agree w/ you, both about these groups being useful for visibility and shattering stereotypes, and about the risk of \support groups\ leading to a victim mentality.  However, I do think there is one key point that isn&#039;t mentioned here.

\Being women isn’t much different from any of those other groups other than it’s an identifiable social programming.\  I disagree with this.  Being a woman has one key difference from other categories:  Women often have biological reproductive responsibilities, and though not all women are mothers, those that are have a particular set of challenges that are unique in that they are not imposed on us by society, but by our biology and life decisions.  Other socio-economic groups simply do not have to balance pregnancy and breastfeeding as well as stereotypes and myths; in theory, if the stereotypes and myths went away, most socio-economic groups wouldn&#039;t have problems or need special treatment anymore (think of the integration of Irish-Americans and Italian-Americans).  Not so women (or at least mothers), who would still continue to bear children and breastfeed.

However, as you point out about \Women in Agile\, this is a problem for all working women, and it might have enough unique solutions available in the field of IT for women in IT - but it is difficult to see how any of these problems would take on a different nature in Agile, either.  I just wanted to mention this category of \women&#039;s issues\ in the workplace that really does raise some distinct challenges from the challenges of other socio-economic groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled across your blog while looking for SDET reading.  Mostly I agree w/ you, both about these groups being useful for visibility and shattering stereotypes, and about the risk of \support groups\ leading to a victim mentality.  However, I do think there is one key point that isn&#8217;t mentioned here.</p>
<p>\Being women isn’t much different from any of those other groups other than it’s an identifiable social programming.\  I disagree with this.  Being a woman has one key difference from other categories:  Women often have biological reproductive responsibilities, and though not all women are mothers, those that are have a particular set of challenges that are unique in that they are not imposed on us by society, but by our biology and life decisions.  Other socio-economic groups simply do not have to balance pregnancy and breastfeeding as well as stereotypes and myths; in theory, if the stereotypes and myths went away, most socio-economic groups wouldn&#8217;t have problems or need special treatment anymore (think of the integration of Irish-Americans and Italian-Americans).  Not so women (or at least mothers), who would still continue to bear children and breastfeed.</p>
<p>However, as you point out about \Women in Agile\, this is a problem for all working women, and it might have enough unique solutions available in the field of IT for women in IT &#8211; but it is difficult to see how any of these problems would take on a different nature in Agile, either.  I just wanted to mention this category of \women&#8217;s issues\ in the workplace that really does raise some distinct challenges from the challenges of other socio-economic groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Workplace Diversity: Why diversity can ignite innovation and guarantee success &#171; Testing in The Wild West</title>
		<link>http://www.mauravanderlinden.com/blog/2010/06/05/diversity-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Workplace Diversity: Why diversity can ignite innovation and guarantee success &#171; Testing in The Wild West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] neutral.  Finally Maureen van der Linden argues while she appreciates the need for diversity, she doesn&#8217;t see any gender specific issues in agile and so wonders why a diversity group is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] neutral.  Finally Maureen van der Linden argues while she appreciates the need for diversity, she doesn&#8217;t see any gender specific issues in agile and so wonders why a diversity group is [...]</p>
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